The chances of them bringing constructive conversation to the sub is slim/none. For me this is a ban, but per RW, i will reach out, leave a note and see what happens.
I'd see how they act after seven days. It may be helpful if a SCC member could look to address his concerns and behavior but I'm not sure if that's the role that the SCC should be taking.
luma44
Can't look into it at the moment but either this is a troll trolling me or a bot botting me
I'd see how they act after seven days. It may be helpful if a SCC
member could look to address his concerns and behavior but I'm not sure
if that's the role that the SCC should be taking.
I guess it's worth noting that user actions such as bans were not originally going to be something that we were going to involve the SCC but I'm receptive to it being part of the discussions here(edited)
4:27 PM
I presume you'd agree that you'd prefer transparency on this topic?(edited)
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luma44
I presume you'd agree that you'd prefer transparency on this topic? (edited)
I guess it's worth noting that user actions such as bans were not
originally going to be something that we were going to involve the SCC
but I'm receptive to it being part of the discussions here (edited)
I'd be curious when the last ban was given out. If it was in the last three months, then a warning and ban duration escalation definitely sounds warranted.
As this is a first offense, the ban duration should be reduced (more than one as they've continued with the modmail; three maybe?). A small apology issued for the excessive length. Then an explanation on how they can do better. I'd also like them to know that the SCC is looking out for them. Is this unreasonable?
4:35 PM
I understand that I might be asking a little much here, but my end goal is rehabilitation of inappropriate apes.
Rough_Willow
I understand that I might be asking a little much here, but my end goal is rehabilitation of inappropriate apes.
To that end, and I say this cause we go through restorative practices a lot in school, suspensions on their own don’t tend to improve behaviors. The accountability piece of them acknowledging what part of the behavior doesn’t jive with the spirit of the sub is important. If that can happen, yeah I’d agree to shorten the ban to the normal timeframe.
Lairian -Flairy Type-
Thread in #project-ideas for escalation review and updates?#mod-ban-procedures(edited)
Ok, so on that common level, the restorative process still means that the guy needs to acknowledge the bag of dicks and “fuck off already” type responses are not appropriate. If they think they’ve said nothing out of line then there’s not much evidence that we’d see a change to less abrasive behavior.
TiberiusWoodwind
Ok, so on that common level, the restorative process still means that
the guy needs to acknowledge the bag of dicks and “fuck off already”
type responses are not appropriate. If they think they’ve said nothing
out of line then there’s not much evidence that we’d see a change to
less abrasive behavior.
Typically we only see a change of behavior when a user (who is typically positive) ends up having a bad day and getting into a flame war with another user. We will get a nice modmail from them acknowledging what happened and a verbal agreement to be better.
Users who's post history is full of negativity are almost always a lost cause and will be a repeat offender.
Yeah. It’s a slog when doing it regularly. But we are looking at either abrasive behavior back in 3 days or 7 days. Dude could have cooled off after a couple hours and the reach out amounts to them saying “hey that was a dick move, my bad”. Then awesome, 3 days and come on back. But if they are still pissed, they’ll still be pissed in 3 or 7 days.
luma44
So it's typically the case that we see one person getting multiple bans.
3 days 7 days, why not 15, or 30. The way I see it, is everyone is an adult. Being banned from sending comments to superstonk isn't like.... jail. It's not the big a deal. I'm good with longer time frames. If I was banned for 2 days, 30 days, it's not like I can't view content. But thats just me.
guantanamo_babies_say_heyy
3 days 7 days, why not 15, or 30. The way I see it, is everyone is an
adult. Being banned from sending comments to superstonk isn't like....
jail. It's not the big a deal. I'm good with longer time frames. If I
was banned for 2 days, 30 days, it's not like I can't view content. But
thats just me.
IMO, I can’t always say for sure what’s behind the emotion in an outburst. For all we know, dude has been having a horrifically bad day and had a blow up but some steam lets off and immediately he realizes that was uncalled for. OR he’s legit feeling that and will blow up again soon as he’s back. Who knows and it could be whatever in between. So if a check in during the ban occurs and he recognizes it was too much, that’s a good sign cutting it short is a building moment. But letting it go long with no check in, it just lets those negative feelings increase.
TiberiusWoodwind
IMO, I can’t always say for sure what’s behind the emotion in an
outburst. For all we know, dude has been having a horrifically bad day
and had a blow up but some steam lets off and immediately he realizes
that was uncalled for. OR he’s legit feeling that and will blow up again
soon as he’s back. Who knows and it could be whatever in between. So if
a check in during the ban occurs and he recognizes it was too much,
that’s a good sign cutting it short is a building moment. But letting it
go long with no check in, it just lets those negative feelings
increase.
Yup, I ran out of my meds, my grandfather died, and my wife had a brain bleed. I was very prone to emotional outbursts and I'd have been very sad to lose the community due to a lapse in judgement when my life was going to hell.
TiberiusWoodwind
IMO, I can’t always say for sure what’s behind the emotion in an
outburst. For all we know, dude has been having a horrifically bad day
and had a blow up but some steam lets off and immediately he realizes
that was uncalled for. OR he’s legit feeling that and will blow up again
soon as he’s back. Who knows and it could be whatever in between. So if
a check in during the ban occurs and he recognizes it was too much,
that’s a good sign cutting it short is a building moment. But letting it
go long with no check in, it just lets those negative feelings
increase.
We actually do a lot of wellness check ins with people who are very out of sorts from their usual post history
6:57 PM
I've talked to more than my fair share of people going through depression/loss to those who just had a bad day
6:57 PM
That was not on my bingo card when I signed up to be a mod
Rough_Willow
Yup, I ran out of my meds, my grandfather died, and my wife had a brain
bleed. I was very prone to emotional outbursts and I'd have been very
sad to lose the community due to a lapse in judgement when my life was
going to hell.
Exactly. And reasonable people know when they’ve had that blow up and know the reach out means the person is looking past the blow up to make sure they are ok.
I'm just getting my kids through their bedtime routine. Where did we land on this person? I think the agreement was 3 days. I'll be honest that personally I think 7 days was appropriate for the content that they shared... But I'm a man of my word and I'll reduce it to 3 per discussions here. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss any discussions relevant to this particular user
7:20 PM
Related to seniormichachito
7:20 PM
I know we had discussed 3 days but I know other people have chimed in and I didn't do a great job of tracking the conversation
luma44
I know we had discussed 3 days but I know other people have chimed in and I didn't do a great job of tracking the conversation
Hmm... post history seems to be mostly bbby stuff, too.
We're all adults, actions have consequences and singling someone out because you don't like their opinion on a stock is petty.
3 days and a warning is fitting.
I'm a proponent of second and final chances, unless it's something egregious(edited)
7:26 PM
7:28 PM
I'm feeling nice because I'm having the best cigar I've ever had lol
Well, I think this has been productive. I'll do what I said I'd do and reduce the sentence as a token of good faith towards consistency here, and then I'll reveal our current ban playbook in the #mod-ban-procedures thread in the next few days.
If I'm being honest... I want to prepare everybody who's been involved in these discussions that there may not be significant movement in the way that we do things simply because this falls under our "keep the sub safe and civil mandate." But discussions are good and it's worth talking through to see if we can optimize our best practices
Understandable, we're here to be a source of transparency to the Community and to lend a voice of average Investors who have been in the sub. I've been around a while so I know what yall have dealt with
7:31 PM
Makes sense with things like this, that the usual methods of dealing with it will be utilized for the subs best interests
luma44
Well, I think this has been productive. I'll do what I said I'd do and
reduce the sentence as a token of good faith towards consistency here,
and then I'll reveal our current ban playbook in the #mod-ban-procedures thread in the next few days.
It's going to look weird, but basically I unbanned and rebanned u/SeniorMuchachito for 2 days (so it is essentially slightly less than 3 total with time already served). This is the message I sent with the new ban:
https://www.reddit.com/user/Phoirkas/
I'm putting this here now because I have a feeling he will eventually end up in some reports. Pretty negative against Dr T with no evidence to explain why he disagrees with her points, firm BBBY supporter, comment history looks fairly toxic.
https://www.reddit.com/user/Phoirkas/
I'm putting this here now because I have a feeling he will eventually
end up in some reports. Pretty negative against Dr T with no evidence to
explain why he disagrees with her points, firm BBBY supporter, comment
history looks fairly toxic.
Looks like https://old.reddit.com/user/LordRaeko needs a checking in on. I don't know if they're just being a doomer or if they're purposefully being a troll.
@Superstonk Mod
Got a user here that's been adamantly contacting me about their perma-hammer.
Their comment definitely warranted it, but I needed to say that I came to yall and brought it up.
We will always take an unbiased look at appeals if they do it via modmail. Typically we want them to acknowledge what they did wrong and let us know what would change if we unbanned them
I think you've done the right thing to escalate it. Definitely encourage them to reach out via modmail. Their background on pp show doesn't really matter provided that they express a willingness to engage in superstonk in good faith moving forward.
It's literally a bankrupt company, like there is one way this ends. At least it provides a cautionary tale. We've had a lot of distraction stocks come up. At some point it becomes obvious to anyone paying attention that these distractions are apples and oranges comparisons to GME (even if you don't approach it from the MOASS angle, just speaking on fundamentals)
But yeah having something to point at and say "You want tinfoil without substance? This is what one gets when they fuck around and invest their money based on a theory with no supporting evidence"
I would simply submit to everyone here that regardless of what happens with Bobby, expected outcome or not, that real shills will be seeking to divide the communities further and that it will actually be a very large opportunity to spread unity and understanding across aisles.
If Bobby shareholders get wiped out that's a lot of disappointed apes crawling back to GME only positions, shills will seek to alienate them.
If Bobby gets that mythical white knight that's a lot of squeeze capital from apes hoping to use it as a stepping stone for more GME.
Regardless of how it turns out I think we know our sustainable objectives and what shills would want instead.
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LastResortFriend
I would simply submit to everyone here that regardless of what happens
with Bobby, expected outcome or not, that real shills will be seeking to
divide the communities further and that it will actually be a very
large opportunity to spread unity and understanding across aisles.
If Bobby shareholders get wiped out that's a lot of disappointed apes
crawling back to GME only positions, shills will seek to alienate them.
If Bobby gets that mythical white knight that's a lot of squeeze capital
from apes hoping to use it as a stepping stone for more GME.
Regardless of how it turns out I think we know our sustainable
objectives and what shills would want instead.
There are plenty of good posters/commenters who contribute positively to both subs, unfortunately its the bad apples that make the rest of them look bad
Lyrad (Crybad)
There are plenty of good posters/commenters who contribute positively
to both subs, unfortunately its the bad apples that make the rest of
them look bad
I'd recommend making a couple of welcoming messages that address that and call for unity. It would be a good time to push the DD Library and redirect attention to what matters and base our fellow apes in Solid DD again.
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LastResortFriend
Totally, and no matter the outcome I foresee a ton of alienating "I Told You So" type posts and comments.
ngl, i'm going to have to refrain from doing this myself.
7:36 PM
after getting shit on for 8 months for "supressing" information, a part of me reallllllyyyy wants to gloat
LastResortFriend
I'd recommend making a couple of welcoming messages that address that
and call for unity. It would be a good time to push the DD Library and
redirect attention to what matters and base our fellow apes in Solid DD
again.
Maybe, whatever is said, have a tone of compassion in it. Followed up by reassurance. For me, having fidelty offer 1000 (outside of CS) dollars a month to borrow my shares is some serious proof GME's got some hidden value behind it.
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LastResortFriend
I'd recommend making a couple of welcoming messages that address that
and call for unity. It would be a good time to push the DD Library and
redirect attention to what matters and base our fellow apes in Solid DD
again.
For unity, the message of "welcome to reason, no you aren't here to push your next bad idea" should outweigh "welcome in, please continue to make bad decisions"
A sustainable and gentle call for unity would do more damage to our opponents than getting schadenfreude and treating those who could become allies as children instead. As Crybad said, the sub struggles enough as is with purity tests, the more that is done over proper level headed debates with open arms the more the community will fracture.
Phrasing that message in an authoritarian way is going to backfire. Redirecting to the DD Library to ground anyone in the clouds is better than trying to anchor them yourself.
They don't believe DRS is doing anything, and get some things incorrect. Going back, the sentiment is the same but they're a lot harsher recently. Might just be them having a bad day
They don't believe DRS is doing anything, and get some things
incorrect. Going back, the sentiment is the same but they're a lot
harsher recently. Might just be them having a bad day
I mean, I don’t think it will effect price until either many many more shares are drs’d OR some real bullish action starts happening on a inst level. Reoccurring CS buys make for a relatively small amount of volume and they occur twice a month. We see the little spike that accompanies them because they are aggregated into larger orders but then it’s two weeks of retails odd lots doing nothing against any inst level money trading it down. So is it really helping price? Probably not but it gives us an accurate count of how much apes possess and how many apes. Meaning the rest of the world could see how easy buying up the rest of the float would be as more people jump in.(edited)
/u/Intelligent-Forever-
Just saw a comment by this user in an already nix’d post but I think they unintentionally provided a great comment to make an example of
11:25 AM
“WTF is this! You guys won’t wake up, Superstonk is suppressing hardcore and Ryan Cohen ist still behind Butterfly (old: Bbbyq). Wake up guys, they are dividing us.”
11:27 AM
Brigading for sure judging by post history but hey, we talk about the optics of some people on Superstonk and how it looks to outsiders. This comment makes for a great juxtaposition
ProgVirus
/u/Intelligent-Forever-
Just saw a comment by this user in an already nix’d post but I think
they unintentionally provided a great comment to make an example of
Off topic tip, users who are willing to break one of Reddit's rules are more likely to break more. So if someone's brigading, check out their comment history. You might also find them calling for genocide.
I'm kinda confused about this. Could someone explain? I read through the post (at least a good skimming) and had a little trouble keeping up with what was going on. XP(edited)
Rixxi Rustrivet
I'm kinda confused about this. Could someone explain? I read through
the post (at least a good skimming) and had a little trouble keeping up
with what was going on. XP (edited)
My post with the butterfly stuff? So bbbyq used the word “butterfly” as the new name of their company since they don’t own the brand anymore. Bbbyq folks have created a bunch of tinfoil on why that name was chosen. GameStop tweeted a video promoting a Nintendo game and the very beginning has a butterfly on screen. Bbbyq fans are trying to hype this as RC talking to them through a tweet and want to post about it on Superstonk since their own subs are imploding. My take is that them posting about butterflies has nothing to do with GME despite being tweeted by them because specifically the reason they are interested in it is over another stock and not GME at all.
Yeah their last 3 posts are just them complaining.
Doesn't seem too big an issue but I'm sure if they keep it up it will be.
Community seems to be handling them well(edited)
There's been a TON of chatter and reports about this user.
5:06 PM
They are negative towards the story that an investment in GME is going to MOON... but they're not necessarily anti-GME. They are being reported for ban evasion based on their snoo picture and their calling themselves "Peebot"
5:06 PM
I am seeing why they are ruffling feathers.
5:07 PM
However, I've not yet found the smoking gun that confirms they are an alt, or some egregious infraction that has earned them a ban for their behavior
We can report them to Reddit (well anyone can) and Reddit can take action seperately to us. Of course we can't approve content that breaks Reddit TOS so we're somewhat of a first line of moderation and Reddit will come in after and moderate it again (with Reddit level bans being handed out).
Enough engagement to get a flair, but little otherwise. With little other mod actions to show a pattern, are there other comments in their history to suggest their bigoted outburst is a habit or a singular transgression?
If it's a singular instance, I don't think a 3 day temp ban and warning wouldn't be unreasonable.
If it's habitual, I'd give them a final warning and escalate the ban duration to a month. If they're not a regular, they likely won't be back. If they are a regular, they have a chance to get their head on straight.
Rough_Willow
Enough engagement to get a flair, but little otherwise. With little
other mod actions to show a pattern, are there other comments in their
history to suggest their bigoted outburst is a habit or a singular
transgression?
If it's a singular instance, I don't think a 3 day temp ban and warning
wouldn't be unreasonable.
If it's habitual, I'd give them a final warning and escalate the ban
duration to a month. If they're not a regular, they likely won't be
back. If they are a regular, they have a chance to get their head on
straight.
In low engagement situations, it seems appropriate.
6:23 PM
If there was high engagement but this was the first time something like this was said in Superstonk, I wouldn't feel the need to check out comment histories.
Harass how? What'd he do specificly to lead to this?
6:09 PM
Holed up in the hospital and it floated across my screen in another server. I just recognize the large name and was surprised there's no user discussion talk on it.
Near as I can figure Victor doesn't appear to be particularly happy with Superstonk at the moment
6:17 PM
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6:18 PM
6:18 PM
So, here's a genuine question. If much of their recent content is like this, why exactly do they want to continue to participate? Again, that's a /gen question
6:19 PM
I think the best thing is for us to speak with Victor directly, rather than just hear second- or third-hand that he's upset with a decision.
6:19 PM
If you ask him to send in a modmail, I give you my personal guarantee it gets a fair assessment
6:21 PM
But right now, I have little to go on except that there was a post promoting a pp stream on superstonk and didn't like its removal, that he doesn't like the mods, and that he thinks we're controlling the narrative. I would just want to ask some additional questions and get his perspective
6:21 PM
I think there's absolutely space for an unbanning.
Honestly the whole RC has nothing to do with GME argument (paraphrasing) has burned a lot of apes away. I don't have the pull to ask him to submit to an appeal process over something he's not apologetic for and willing to walk away over.
Lmao, that's between y'all. It was gonna be a problem if impersonation accounts were going around with big names saying this stuff as that calls for alarm bells.
Bbby just seems too close to over in court to let big names like him go very easily though. Beyond that I think talk of a basket stock getting got in under a year will be important later, esp from apes who were part of it/them.
VTT is part of the PP gang. His last removed comments have been:
Mods r sus x 2
Plugs for the ppshow x 2
Mods r sus
Support of the BS that Plat is a FINRA employee.
It's just a snapshot in time for the last 100 posts and comments. Can tell if they are a user who's hardly ever posts on superstonk, a potential bought account, or could possibly be coming brigading from elsewhere
Quick suggestion, encourage scc members who don't want to participate in the heavier scc talks to do outreach to apes like Victor and find out the actual reasons for the changes in heart.
LastResortFriend
Quick suggestion, encourage scc members who don't want to participate
in the heavier scc talks to do outreach to apes like Victor and find out
the actual reasons for the changes in heart.
Nah. One is fine. If he’s committed to just doing/saying the same thing he’s heard elsewhere he can just copy a single banana. Plus I simply can not comprehend 2.
8:19 PM
I mean there’s only one hole.
TiberiusWoodwind
Nah. One is fine. If he’s committed to just doing/saying the same thing
he’s heard elsewhere he can just copy a single banana. Plus I simply
can not comprehend 2.
Hang on. Let’s compromise. He shoves a watermelon in his ass instead but it has plats name written on the side. Then he can be unbanned. This all seems logical right? I mean I hate to not respect meme royalty properly.
He's not in Superstonk in good faith and a 2 minute search of his history confirms that idea. PPshow and other various places can be as toxic as they want. They can stay there
Help me remember something since my mind is on old names now. What was that stuff about atobitt going doomer?
Lyrad (Crybad)
He's not in Superstonk in good faith and a 2 minute search of his
history confirms that idea. PPshow and other various places can be as
toxic as they want. They can stay there
Right but of those memesters, 3 defiled a body cavity in a way most folks would be horrified to. BUT only one punched 7 numbers into his cell phone, then 3 more as he navigated the phone tree, then spoke with a call screener, then repeated 3 words. AND HE DID IT ALL WITH NOTHING IN HIS ASS.
TiberiusWoodwind
Hang on. Let’s compromise. He shoves a watermelon in his ass instead
but it has plats name written on the side. Then he can be unbanned. This
all seems logical right? I mean I hate to not respect meme royalty
properly.
Iirc, trimbath disagreed with some of his conclusions and I think made it seem like he misquoted her. That happened right around that dd week thing and people dog piled his post commenting on how trimbath said he’s wrong. Idk enough about the details of their work to know what the truth was but he sounded exhausted and felt beaten up by a sub and an author he’d respected.
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TiberiusWoodwind
Iirc, trimbath disagreed with some of his conclusions and I think made
it seem like he misquoted her. That happened right around that dd week
thing and people dog piled his post commenting on how trimbath said he’s
wrong. Idk enough about the details of their work to know what the
truth was but he sounded exhausted and felt beaten up by a sub and an
author he’d respected.
There are a few things with atobitt, and I've known him for a long time (still in a few discords with him). It was a 2 part thing. First was DD week, where he placed emphasis on the fact that DRS alone isn't going to do anything if the company is not profitable. The sub got real shitty with him for that statement and quoting his DD and comments WAY out of context
Second was that he had a good relationship with Dr T. She reviewed his stuff before the AMAs and she gave good constructive feedback but said she was impressed with his work. Never ever led him to believe that his work was...(i forgot how she put it). It really hurt him because he maintained a good relationship and would chat with her about verifying and giving her input on various DDs. Her tweet was a stab in the back and he was pretty much done at that point
The Netflix film makers straight up lied to him when they interviewed him for the Netflix doc. He was so excited for that doc to come out and the fact it was more of a hit piece just crushed him. At the same time he got a lot of heat for that *because * the Netflix doc was so shilly
8:48 PM
And before that, one of his last DD's he did for superstonk got into options, options hedging and market makers. And well, you know how the sub feels about options.
8:48 PM
But the DD was right and Superstonk didn't want to hear it, cause options bad.
If I ever need to save my image of being mean, argumentative, rude, combative….well I just pull the Pineapple Express cord and it cues up a smart phone with a ring light so I can make an apology vid.
TiberiusWoodwind
If I ever need to save my image of being mean, argumentative, rude,
combative….well I just pull the Pineapple Express cord and it cues up a
smart phone with a ring light so I can make an apology vid.
I went back into the comment history and was confused as hell. Read to me like the reporter was the problem, not the reportee (assuming I found the correct conversation) And looked like reporter was following him around to different subs.
I'm genuinely curious at what point are we going to sit Ringing Bells down and tell them if they're going to continue posting their sensationalist style posts, they can't turn around and send mood swing novels at everyone who may disagree with them.
Posting as much as they do, is going to bring criticism and disagreement
Peer review is core to what makes this Sub.
Just because they post a lot doesn't mean they're necessary.
It's a bad look for the sub when even the most minor of criticisms gets met with a 3 page response about how someone is (and I'm quoting his favorite phrase) " attacking my integrity and assassinating my character" and ranting how anyone who disagrees is why the sub sucks..(edited)
1:06 PM
This dude has been doing it long enough
1:07 PM
It makes us look unhinged
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1:07 PM
Just my 2 cents
1:08 PM
But I've been vocal about the damage they're doing for a while
1:09 PM
And for the record, all they do is post articles and memes.
There's no DD being done...
1:09 PM
I could karma farm too by posting the obvious(edited)
Caffeine & Ketamine
I'm genuinely curious at what point are we going to sit Ringing Bells
down and tell them if they're going to continue posting their
sensationalist style posts, they can't turn around and send mood swing
novels at everyone who may disagree with them.
Posting as much as they do, is going to bring criticism and
disagreement
Peer review is core to what makes this Sub.
Just because they post a lot doesn't mean they're necessary.
It's a bad look for the sub when even the most minor of criticisms gets
met with a 3 page response about how someone is (and I'm quoting his
favorite phrase) " attacking my integrity and assassinating my
character" and ranting how anyone who disagrees is why the sub sucks.. (edited)
That's a meta topic that maybe should be made into a fireside chat reminder. I don't think they're worth banning from the very brief read over their profile, but they need to be reminded about the meta rule.
Puns aside, I don’t understand why she’d bother arguing with them at this point. They don’t actually believe in what they are saying. There is literally no evidence you can provide them that would get them to say “ah fuck I’m wrong”. Will not happen because that’s it for the bullshit act if they do. They say that and the YouTube money hose stops permanently, so it will never happen. They admit they are wrong and they’ll never be able to bullshit again because of how public they’ve been on this. You can’t expose them because they surround themselves with folks who won’t believe they are wrong either, so there’s no one to expose them to.
Is that the one that basically is just spamming jokes?
2:29 PM
I went down the rabbit hole and then AD'D my way out of taking action on it because I wasn't sure if it was a bot, or a dedicated reposter of jokes spreading joy through Reddit like Johnny Applerepost
Looking past the earlier extremely close timestamps, if you scroll back enough in the comments, you can can see representation for every hour within the last 24 hours. No human is that dedicated.
Some people just want to be mad because they don't like authority - sort of a common thread in our community. We don't like the financial authorities lying to us... we don't like the mod authorities saying "don't touch that outlet"
Can you blame them? It's natural to be suspicious of all authority when everything is corrupt. The main problem is that people will always disregard potential allies because anyone with power or authority will seem sus
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9:13 AM
I'd be lying if I said I had full trust in the mods before I became one
Ok this is going to be a stupid question, but was there any significance to the person on the left? I share the same stance on that general theme of using the community, but am lost on the general context of what he was trying to achieve with this instance since I didn't recognize all the people in the photo. If it's too off topic, shoot me a DM.
well technically one of his brands Newell filed a claim against them.. so they owe him some money
3:22 PM
probably inventory
3:22 PM
unpaid
stonkyagraha
Looking past the earlier extremely close timestamps, if you scroll back
enough in the comments, you can can see representation for every hour
within the last 24 hours. No human is that dedicated.
Is there a meltdown post? To me it looks like someone who jumped on the bandwagon and was influenced by recent events to just give up. Followed a bad example of putting in more than they could afford to use and spreading their personal baggage to the rest of the sub. I'd be inclined to keep the comment since the top response to it is , but I would remove their WealthSimple post. Because being a position post, it isn't subject to the purple circle free pass that is offered to people.
I just checked their post history really briefly and saw the meltdown sub didn't dig too far as I didn't have a lot of time so just posted here for optics (edited)
The cynic in me says this is entirely to keep people moving to an ecosystem where donation links and ads aren't stopped.
I try not to listen to that part of myself but.
Well.
The timing sure lines up.
What does everyone think about these reports?:
https://discord.com/channels/1098133959843512320/1098135007177998376/1185662847645130772
I've seen them several times. It's interesting. If I go through some snapshots, we can definitely see that the description was a revision at some point. Unfortunately most are from old.reddit and profile description is invisible (afik) https://web.archive.org/web/20230325004722/https://www.reddit.com/user/baseballmal21
I think the best way to see if there is some truth to the matter or if it's just some social experiment would be to message the Twitter in question. I would do it myself, but my Twitter has like 0 social clout and would get probably get ignored right away. And then if somehow I did get an answer, you'd probably want to verify yourselves instead of just trusting my word anyway. Lol
I do think doing so could be worthwhile, because on the Reddit account, the posting habits seemed to have undergone a recent change.
stonkyagraha
What does everyone think about these reports?:
https://discord.com/channels/1098133959843512320/1098135007177998376/1185662847645130772
I've seen them several times. It's interesting. If I go through some
snapshots, we can definitely see that the description was a revision at
some point. Unfortunately most are from old.reddit and profile
description is invisible (afik) https://web.archive.org/web/20230325004722/https://www.reddit.com/user/baseballmal21
I think the best way to see if there is some truth to the matter or if
it's just some social experiment would be to message the Twitter in
question. I would do it myself, but my Twitter has like 0 social clout
and would get probably get ignored right away. And then if somehow I did
get an answer, you'd probably want to verify yourselves instead of just
trusting my word anyway. Lol
People will be like "Oh he finally figured out how to change it"
11:45 AM
If we wanted to stop the speculation. The best thing would be for him to address it via his Twitter IMO. I don't know how that serves his personal interests regarding the individual reports though ♂️
I’m not sure what the issue is. I haven’t seen him post anything really deep or questionable. Idk why people think it’s a bought account. What are people questioning exactly?
12:19 PM
Also ringingbells is being a dick to the guy because he isn’t talking about the only topic ringingbells ever talks about
Swear to god. The sub won’t question once a post marked dd that is riddled with errors but you put something sus in a user description and the geniuses all believe they found a secret agent.
Jfc. Another idiot. Folks do understand that people in suits can be dumb right? The expensive clothes don’t make them paid shills. It just is a suit on a clueless person.
I'm generally not too fond of the act of using your own other social media posts as content, unless that social media outlet provides some distinct advantages. (Medium formatting, Youtube player, etc). It gets too self promotey when you could literally just format simple statements as a Reddit post.
But then in this case, it wouldn't work with the Reddit profile literally saying he isn't Kevin Malone anymore. Lol. How do you still carry the weight of your statements, when you youself say you aren't you? This is certainly an interesting use case.(edited)
Here I am covered in camo and reeking of deer piss. I can answer more drs questions than both of them.
You know what should speak volumes? At the goof troop party the other night someone asked pulte about book v plan and he seemed confused about the terms, like had no clue what either meant.
TiberiusWoodwind
Here I am covered in camo and reeking of deer piss. I can answer more
drs questions than both of them.
You know what should speak volumes? At the goof troop party the other
night someone asked pulte about book v plan and he seemed confused about
the terms, like had no clue what either meant.
I don't know, I don't think a ban would be a good idea. The only thing that will accomplish is further spreading of the 'mods r sus' narrative. As the mods have said in the past, thinking they are sus isn't a bannable offense. It's unfortunate that was tweeted, but ultimately it happened off of reddit, so it couldn't have broken any sub rules.
Mods are sus. It's unfortunate that this is the go to when somebody disagrees with something. PB knows most some of us personally, so it's unclear why he chose the route of attacking us all broadly instead of expressing his specific concern. As things stand, I would advocate against any ban on PB. His DD is really great. He's allowed to have an opinion, and it wasn't expressed on Reddit any way, so it didn't break Superstonk rules. That's how I see it, anyway(edited)
I presume it was related to the jack of spades post? But honestly, I don't have context either
Diznavis
I don't know, I don't think a ban would be a good idea. The only thing
that will accomplish is further spreading of the 'mods r sus'
narrative. As the mods have said in the past, thinking they are sus
isn't a bannable offense. It's unfortunate that was tweeted, but
ultimately it happened off of reddit, so it couldn't have broken any sub
rules.
Idk. The social media voting thing is kinda dopey in my opinion. Most folks do not care enough to vote what they actually think. So you end up getting the results of a passionate few. Twitter is loaded with folks grumpy because they can’t participate on Reddit because mods here don’t just let their every fever dream conspiracy be entertained
6:59 PM
It’d be like going on the DRSGME server and asking if Superstonk mods are compromised. Go figure a bunch of banned accounts say yes
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TiberiusWoodwind
It’d be like going on the DRSGME server and asking if Superstonk mods
are compromised. Go figure a bunch of banned accounts say yes
And yet those grumpy folks show up every day to see who else did research for them.
TiberiusWoodwind
Idk. The social media voting thing is kinda dopey in my opinion. Most
folks do not care enough to vote what they actually think. So you end up
getting the results of a passionate few. Twitter is loaded with folks
grumpy because they can’t participate on Reddit because mods here don’t
just let their every fever dream conspiracy be entertained
Also keep in mind, in some cases the converse is true. This is only a personal anecdote, but my inner opinions weren’t too optimistic until mods reached out and and invited me to partake here.
stonkyagraha
Also keep in mind, in some cases the converse is true. This is only a
personal anecdote, but my inner opinions weren’t too optimistic until
mods reached out and and invited me to partake here.
Also keep in mind, in some cases the converse is true. This is only a
personal anecdote, but my inner opinions weren’t too optimistic until
mods reached out and and invited me to partake here.
To 6days point about him being banned. He’s paying more attention to the first sentence than the second. It’s not just about posting links. Having discussions while purposefully blocking people who disagree with you is the lack of good faith part. Dude was engaged in both of these actions back then but avoids mentioning the latter because it doesn’t elicit the same sympathetic response.
TiberiusWoodwind
To 6days point about him being banned. He’s paying more attention to
the first sentence than the second. It’s not just about posting links.
Having discussions while purposefully blocking people who disagree with
you is the lack of good faith part. Dude was engaged in both of these
actions back then but avoids mentioning the latter because it doesn’t
elicit the same sympathetic response.
Dude, there is literally ZERO I can say there that anyone will take 2 seconds to reflect on. Just like in Jack’s transparency request thread on the ss server, the second I bring up uncomfortable truths suddenly no one wants to speak. I’ve made my points repeatedly, no one wants to sack up and discuss some of the sore points of his dd.
7:33 PM
And I’m not interested in run around night of getting every what aboutism from him or him suddenly becoming busy when I ask tough questions
When you disinfo so hard you can't even keep track of your own narrative lmfao (re: Paul Conn interview being cited as evidence in that shitty post)(edited)
This one is the one that I find the most fascinating. I can't say I've seen everything on the subreddit. But the prospect of encountering "plan kings" in the wild seems a bit odd to me. I guess they must be really good at hiding
I wouldn't use "fascinating", but yeah.
It's pretty classic projection.
The frequency they hit every manipulation technique feels way too much like back in forensics.
stonkyagraha
This one is the one that I find the most fascinating. I can't say I've
seen everything on the subreddit. But the prospect of encountering "plan
kings" in the wild seems a bit odd to me. I guess they must be really
good at hiding
I partially regret making a bunch of comments and giving this post visibility, but honestly dissenting opinions from real people in the community should be visible sometimes
Does anyone else find it odd that u/AccordingAd6130 has made several posts flexing their screenshots the past few days?
7:49 AM
I mean they could be real, but the barrier to entry is so low, that the subreddit using something like that as a measure of trust and clout isn't healthy
Nevermind, I took a closer look at the comments and saw that mods confirmed (so as long as that was thorough that is a bit of a relief). I still think that for the sake of consistency in the right message, a non-computershare position post should be moderated, but maybe others disagree. idk haha.
9:00 AM
But then thinking about it more, at the same time it is a nice contradiction of retail selling out during January 2021. Ok I'm done thinking aloud. Excuse the monologue. Lol