Superstonk Community Corps - coffee-and-tea-room

This room is designed to be a bit different than #breakroom. Essentially the #breakroom is for anything off topic and more of a casual channel. The #coffee-and-tea-room is usually where we put amusing sub related things.

Lyrad (Crybad) pinned a message to this channel. 9/18/2023 1:35 PM

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1:35 PM

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1:38 PM

Oh boy

Lyrad (Crybad)

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Yeah, that Luma guy is quite sus. Please keep an eye on him. He follows me everywhere

luma44

Yeah, that Luma guy is quite sus. Please keep an eye on him. He follows me everywhere

the duality of ape. If you are an unknown mod, you're sus and a plant cause noon'e has ever heard of you. If you're a known mod, it means you are too known and should go back to being an unnamed internet janitor (and also sus).

Ay I already got called a plant one Day1. I'm pretty proud (edited)

Caffeine & Ketamine

Ay I already got called a plant one Day1. I'm pretty proud (edited)

Unfortunately... I have to warn you that any association with the mod team will cast suspicion on some of you by some of the people on the sub. The insurance against that was the bend over backwards open and transparent casting call and the intent to make this a rotating position. Even still, sorry that you're facing that sort of attack. It's not fun. (We know) (edited)

My neighbor is building new front steps in his office clothes

1:57 PM

Gonna ruin those khakis man

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luma44

Unfortunately... I have to warn you that any association with the mod team will cast suspicion on some of you by some of the people on the sub. The insurance against that was the bend over backwards open and transparent casting call and the intent to make this a rotating position. Even still, sorry that you're facing that sort of attack. It's not fun. (We know) (edited)

whattothewhonow is sus

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Caffeine & Ketamine

Ay I already got called a plant one Day1. I'm pretty proud (edited)

I got blocked by a user for answering their questions.

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I have to ask the question... is there a tea room channel on the superstonk mod discord? And if so, how long has it existed?

5:08 PM

Maybe I should have asked on the ask a mod channel, and maybe started with it, that's a much easier question, almost like "what is your favorite color"

Diznavis

I have to ask the question... is there a tea room channel on the superstonk mod discord? And if so, how long has it existed?

Yes, there is. It's where i got the idea to have one here as well

5:25 PM

It's existed for longer than i have been a mod (so more than a year)

i asked because of the tea room on the jungle discord, i suddenly realized that pink may have borrowed the name from the superstonk mod discord from when she was a mod.

Ohhhhh

5:28 PM

Probably

5:28 PM

I assume the discord structure hasn't changed too much since the Red/Pink days

5:30 PM

How's pink doing?!? It's been 42 years now it seems.

5:30 PM

I tried reaching out via Twitter dm but never got a reply (edited)

she doesn't check in that much anymore at the jungle, that is partially why she added some new mods over there

Gotcha. Well I hope she's doing good. Really truly.

Lyrad (Crybad)

I assume the discord structure hasn't changed too much since the Red/Pink days

You assume wrong

7:40 PM

It has been rebuilt at least once, though at the time, there were so few of us active, a lot of the old things got copy/pasted into new places, or reused somehow because they were basic ideas that didn't need to be changed or trashed

7:41 PM

The tea room came into existence, if I recall, due to @Platinumsparkles or maybe it was goldie making a request

7:41 PM

It did not exist until close to the end of my mod service, so what, summer of 2022? In there

7:42 PM

I'm happy to answer other questions about the mod team in the before times

7:42 PM

Just ask

Sir Bradduck Flyntmoore

Just ask

are the mods more sus now or back then?

TiberiusWoodwind

are the mods more sus now or back then?

how exactly did the first shill mods get infiltrated and taken over by the new shill mods?

Tough call, tbh. Their behaviour over the time I've been gone has been... interesting. I'd say it is a mixed bag

TiberiusWoodwind

how exactly did the first shill mods get infiltrated and taken over by the new shill mods?

TiberiusWoodwind

how exactly did the first shill mods get infiltrated and taken over by the new shill mods?

To whom are you referring?

Sir Bradduck Flyntmoore

To whom are you referring?

I'm not. This is all facetious.

TiberiusWoodwind

are the mods more sus now or back then?

All mods are sus. The degree is fluid. There. Lol better answer

TiberiusWoodwind

I'm not. This is all facetious.

Oh good! I figured, since I know you

7:45 PM

Hope you've been well btw

7:45 PM

Also, the answer is probably "The Council of Buttfarms"

But was Ken's plan to install his own shill mod govt and then have a crack team of shill mod commandos take it down to reinstall the new shill mods?

7:46 PM

I just don't understand why ken sends in shills to replace shills. Maybe it takes a shill to kill another shill

That was a false flag, actually. It was radmins who overthrew the shillverment and installed agents

Sir Bradduck Flyntmoore

Hope you've been well btw

I have been. Just bought a house. Closing Thursday.

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7:46 PM

bought it with the money Ken paid me to write rainbow posts

7:46 PM

Good tea

TiberiusWoodwind

bought it with the money Ken paid me to write rainbow posts

I loved your TtR series

7:47 PM

The reanalyzing repeatedly is 2nd to none I dare say (edited)

Sir Bradduck Flyntmoore

I loved your TtR series

It's still working. no fucking idea why or how.

When you modified the structure to pivot downward instead of directly across. Mm. So good

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TiberiusWoodwind

It's still working. no fucking idea why or how.

Matrix hoodoo

TiberiusWoodwind

But was Ken's plan to install his own shill mod govt and then have a crack team of shill mod commandos take it down to reinstall the new shill mods?

Maybe the first mod team was placed by Credit Suisse, when they stopped paying the bills Citadel took over.

wow. big finance has paid like a lot of money to keep installing a board of shill directors who spend half their time telling people to be nice

It is way more than half

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7:51 PM

Assuming things are mostly the same as they were on the mod end (edited)

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Sir Bradduck Flyntmoore

The tea room came into existence, if I recall, due to @Platinumsparkles or maybe it was goldie making a request

Yes we needed a second breakroom for off topic convo when breakroon was already being used & for Twitter drama Platcorn

Sir Bradduck Flyntmoore

That was a false flag, actually. It was radmins who overthrew the shillverment and installed agents

They really overthrew some subs

and put mods there to take them off private

Platinumsparkles

They really overthrew some subs

and put mods there to take them off private

Fr?

8:01 PM

I was joking lol

Omg yessss

Wow

https://kotaku.com/reddit-mods-steve-huffman-protest-nsfw-blackout-api-ios-1850558712

Reddit Is Removing Mods Over NSFW Protests

CEO Steve Huffman is at the helm for a sitewide meltdown that affects some of the biggest gaming communities on the internet

8:08 PM

Some tea

eh, all my favorite subs are already nsfw on purpose. this isn't important

They went from private(for the protest) to NSFW so that reddit couldn't get ads for them. Made reddit big mad (edited)

reddit needs to consider running different ads then

Or just making a tier with a reasonable subscription, or revamping the awards so they actually had utility

8:13 PM

Or doing anything but being giant douchenozzels

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whattothewhonow

Or doing anything but being giant douchenozzels

yikes. big ask

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2:23 PM

#Coffee-Room

Caffeine & Ketamine

#Coffee-Room

BRB making more coffee

This is the tea and biscuit channel damnit

5:04 PM

5:06 PM

*nudges @FluffyTrex *

Lyrad (Crybad)

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That's a Bun and or Cob. I going to presume that "biscuit" comment isn't related to the image SCCpolice

Aren't they the same thing?

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Caffeine & Ketamine

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This matter has been settled.

9:23 PM

9:24 PM

executive order #69 - Coffee > Tea

9:26 PM

9:27 PM

9:32 PM

But for real though

9:33 PM

Coffee > Tea

100% Nothing beats the vibe a coffee house provides. I absolutely love that atmosphere Nice rainy cozy weather, relaxing music, warm cup of coffee. Moass kicks off, I'll be opening/ investing in a small coffee house.

Caffeine & Ketamine

100% Nothing beats the vibe a coffee house provides. I absolutely love that atmosphere Nice rainy cozy weather, relaxing music, warm cup of coffee. Moass kicks off, I'll be opening/ investing in a small coffee house.

Post moass I'll have a house for coffee

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9:36 PM

Kidding, kidding.

9:36 PM

Small coffee house sounds delightful

9:36 PM

There's one near me that I really like, it's pretty hipster with wooden shelving and iron pipe furniture. I like it there

luma44

There's one near me that I really like, it's pretty hipster with wooden shelving and iron pipe furniture. I like it there

You would...

luma44

There's one near me that I really like, it's pretty hipster with wooden shelving and iron pipe furniture. I like it there

I feel like that architecture is pretty much status quo for a coffee house. Hipsters get a bad wrap but they know how to make a chill atmosphere. I'm biased though, I've dated a couple hipster coffee house people

Lyrad (Crybad)

You would...

Oh no are you a tea room guy cry??

Nonono

9:48 PM

Lyrad is staunchly coffee

9:48 PM

We're good

Caffeine & Ketamine

Oh no are you a tea room guy cry??

Oh lord. Not at all. I'm a 6 cup a day coffee drinker

9:50 PM

I drink tea when I'm sick.

9:50 PM

And...

9:51 PM

Nope. That's it

Lyrad (Crybad)

Oh lord. Not at all. I'm a 6 cup a day coffee drinker

9:58 PM

Coffee shop and ketamine clinics. My money makers post MOASS hahahah

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I'll leave this here. I may be quitting a job.... I still exist, maybe will come back later or something... i love you wall

(edited)

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Lyrad (Crybad)

Aren't they the same thing?

2:31 AM

2:33 AM

(for real with the bread though a bun can be smaller and puffy while a cob can be heavier and wider)

FluffyTrex

(for real with the bread though a bun can be smaller and puffy while a cob can be heavier and wider)

Cob?

7:56 AM

Lyrad (Crybad)

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Lairian -Flairy Type-

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This is wrong on many levels lair.....

Eevee gets tea, Leafeon gets spa day, Flareon gets to burn stuff. Win-win-win.

The Flareon is a highly trained professional, it's fine.

FluffyTrex

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Well with that advice imma go make some poison ivy tea!

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3:12 PM

Jk I only drink coffee because I'm not a 13th century silk trader

Caffeine & Ketamine

Jk I only drink coffee because I'm not a 13th century silk trader

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Keep your eyes on the Phillies in the post-season. Philadelphia baseball teams win the world series in financial collapse years (1929, 2008, 2023?)

7:27 PM

A day in the life of a mod summed up above

...

well, what was the link

For science?

sure

https://youtu.be/5pYeoZaoWrA?si=H3GbUeSBzgZ_6prW

8:20 PM

(It's fucking stupid) (edited)

8:21 PM

(kidding, this is not the link they shared)

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luma44

https://youtu.be/5pYeoZaoWrA?si=H3GbUeSBzgZ_6prW

#$)(%&#$)(^%&#$)^(#&%)^(E$^)($&%)#$(^&)#$(^&$)(^(*T

12:14 PM

Goddamnit smrt team

12:14 PM

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3:01 PM

Glad to see they're using their new power for good /j

I'm going to make tea; my teas can fill my kettle now.

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Sigh

4:20 PM

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Should we have a Superstonk mod meet and greet with Pulte? (edited)

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4:47 PM

Kidding, kidding, kidding.

4:47 PM

Well, I hope they have a lot of fun.

VIP tickets. Wow, just wow

I wonder how much money they made...

I’m gonna say “more than any other bbbyq hodler has or will make”

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looks like the PPshow got smacked with the no tagging code

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I'm shocked. Shocked!

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Lairian -Flairy Type-

I'm shocked. Shocked!

I don't think you are in fact shocked. Call it a hunch

Waiting for that little experiment to run its course and go night night lol

"I have removed the code that Reddit asked us to run. This is on the basis you all behave!" Oh goodie!

No! Really!?

Rough_Willow

"I have removed the code that Reddit asked us to run. This is on the basis you all behave!" Oh goodie!

For real!?

They did... Omg

https://old.reddit.com/r/ThePPShow/comments/17r02sy/sell_now_ask_questions_later/

From the ThePPShow community on Reddit: Sell now ask questions late...

Explore this post and more from the ThePPShow community

Rough_Willow

https://old.reddit.com/r/ThePPShow/comments/17r02sy/sell_now_ask_questions_later/

God they're so annoying

GTA trailer ~~leaked~~ released (edited)

3:29 PM

2025

3:29 PM

market reacts

3:29 PM

guh

A PC is a gorl?!

Oh boy BBBYQ and PP now brigading the Loopring Discord

ProgVirus

Oh boy BBBYQ and PP now brigading the Loopring Discord

This was NOT on my bingo card

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Apparently Byron is going/planning to go on a call with them despite a prominent mod cautioning against, so that’s probably the ‘why’, don’t think the guy knows what he’s getting into

Puts on lrc

I should start some record keeping of tickets that PPshow is getting into and their performance

9:18 AM

They mentioned they were going to chase any stock with low float, high SI to force a squeeze

Lyrad (Crybad)

They mentioned they were going to chase any stock with low float, high SI to force a squeeze

That sounds like coordination.

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...I need a managed inverse PP ETF please.

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Lairian -Flairy Type-

...I need a managed inverse PP ETF please.

dd ETF?

Wow, burn!

Lairian -Flairy Type-

Wow, burn!

pssst, also if you flip the dd upside down, what do you get?

DD=

....

....okay, remember how I disclaim that I drink paint?

3:20 PM

It took me that long staring to figure it out

Lyrad (Crybad)

pssst, also if you flip the dd upside down, what do you get?

ꟼꟼ?

....

4:17 PM

dd upside down, pp

4:17 PM

inverse of pp, would be dd

4:17 PM

()%$&)$%($)&#^(&)%($%)&(^&)(#&) (^&)(^& )(^& )(

4:17 PM

4:18 PM

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Lyrad (Crybad)

dd upside down, pp

Rotated 180°

.....

4:26 PM

WHY WONT YOU LET ME HAVE JOY IN MY LIFE RW!!!!

4:27 PM

All of Gerks server is bearish for tomorrow.

9:29 PM

Any reason or just felt like it? Or they have puts?

Gherk sold the majority of his position

Why the f is he still talking about GME then?

12:46 AM

I will give 1 credit to that crowd,

12:47 AM

Kenny's ballsack ( gingerballs) was right about the slope of DRS.

Lyrad (Crybad)

Gherk sold the majority of his position

Yea, he holds 10k still but sold about 100k this week

8:48 AM

Going to be so sweet if we rocket

Lyrad (Crybad)

Going to be so sweet if we rocket

That will be hilarious

Lyrad (Crybad)

Going to be so sweet if we rocket

IF

9:18 AM

I stand by what I said

9:36 AM

Crybad has doubts. Interesting

Caffeine & Ketamine

Crybad has doubts. Interesting

I have doubts about this if it goes on for another 2 years. 4 years is more than enough time to unwind the position

Lyrad (Crybad)

I have doubts about this if it goes on for another 2 years. 4 years is more than enough time to unwind the position

Hmm... Implying the smaller hedge funds can afford it.

12:57 PM

They've all lost SO much money, I can't see them not attempting to stick it out

12:57 PM

Although I'm biased, I'd really enjoy MOASS and not having to work again lol

Who had "zero change in DRS numbers" in their bingo card?

I wasn't expecting being negative -$1m. Gotta love neutrality

That feeling when a piece of yours that you've worked on tirelessly for 9 nights is outperformed by a factor of over 3 by a meme that took you only several hours (posted by your alt because it was not meaningful enough to meet your quality standards)...

8:44 AM

https://www.zacks.com/commentary/2196413/bull-of-the-day-gamestop-gme

Bull of the Day: GameStop (GME)

Can't stop, won't stop, GameStop.

....I'm at the point where bullish articles actually make me nervous.

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Definitely weird to see them being honest.

They are prepping for that full year profitability. RC has figured out how to stop the bleeding. Long as new initiatives are profitable we keep adding to the success.

4:14 PM

Removing risk of further dilution is big

JPow wearing purple tie! Coincidence / S

Purple is the best colour, clearly

(Legit my favourite)

Reeeeaaally old-school attempt to say you're a bridge between parties, isn't it?

So I’m not saying that angle isn’t helpful esp. in discourse online, but it is 100% really my favourite colour too

I’m not in the US though, but I also don’t fit squarely into any political camp tbh. I am closer to Libertarian, but wouldn’t describe myself as one, if that helps lmao

I think government needs to be more socialist approach when it comes to healthcare & education.

12:15 PM

I think clean energy source like cold fusion is needed for humans to survive. Earth will be fine, it will just take a long ass recovery break from sustaining human life. Maybe a 100K years later, life will flourish once again.

12:16 PM

Does that makes me a Libertarian?

I’m not sure anyone other than you can really say

I will say though if you’re interested in clean and abundant energy, thorium and LFTR is fascinating. If you have a mind for science, the chemistry is beautiful… I’ve been known to get on my soap box about it tho so I’ma stop here

I will definitely take a look. Fossil fuel addiction needs to end. Now give another 30 years or so, there will be fresh water shortages. That's another big issue waiting. But that's just me

‍♂️

I have friends who joke tongue-in-cheek about the upcoming 'climate wars' - who knows if it gets that bad, I do think it's a tad hyperbolic, but I understand where it's coming from. I am a strong believer that we can heal through the application technology in the long run though For example, I mentioned LFTR. Without getting into the specifics, think safe nuclear. No high pressures to cause explosions, self-regulating reaction, foolproof failsafe, no byproducts suitable for military application ^ That in mind, the desalinization of water takes up a lot of energy. So keep the infrastructure for fresh water supply close to the abundant and safe energy-from-a-waste-product (thorium), and you can offset the fresh water crisis at least to a degree. This is just one piece to the puzzle I know. We also need to invest more into vertical farming, and stop using up swathes of land for monocrops. Grow up, not out!

Monoculture farms are a huge evil that we've known needs to go away for decades, sadly.

LFTR is a huge missed opportunity. Nixon handicapped it and then Three MIle Island killed public trust in any nuclear, and its a huge undertaking to get some Karen off the street to understand that molten salt reactors and pressurized salt reactors are as different as steam locomotives and modern diesel locomotives. Unfortunately I don't think we'll see more investment in molten salt reactors. The argument has shifted from just "nuclear bad!" to "why bother with bad nuclear when solar and wind are so cheap?" completely ignoring renewable capacity factor, grid base load, and power storage

Can someone explain the coward part. I don't get it.

4:47 PM

https://discord.com/channels/1098133959843512320/1098135007177998376/1185315864988352623

..... I.....don't know

5:06 PM

It has something to do with the bot not accepting the input from the user

I believe QVbot won't post links (or anything else) that are forbidden by our automod. You see that the tweet link has "PP" in it... I'd bet on it potentially being that.

Lyrad (Crybad)

It has something to do with the bot not accepting the input from the user

It's funny I thought it was the reverse. When I read, I was under the impression that they said the bot was cowardly, because it was a Twitter link in the context of this line: "If this is from Twitter, and Twitter is NOT the original source of this information, this WILL get removed!". That would mean that they contend that Twitter isn't the original source, but that's a matter of perspective on the raw documents vs Dr. T's comments of the documents. Both perspectives would be kind of valid I think.

6:44 PM

But maybe, I'm comepletly wrong in my guess. Who knows haha

stonkyagraha

It's funny I thought it was the reverse. When I read, I was under the impression that they said the bot was cowardly, because it was a Twitter link in the context of this line: "If this is from Twitter, and Twitter is NOT the original source of this information, this WILL get removed!". That would mean that they contend that Twitter isn't the original source, but that's a matter of perspective on the raw documents vs Dr. T's comments of the documents. Both perspectives would be kind of valid I think.

The reason no one really know for sure, is because our bot master isn't a mod anymore

6:52 PM

And we don't have anyone maintaining them

I would say we need new bot masters. But then I'd also say trusting new people for bot masters should not be taken lightly and we shouldn't trust new bot masters. God this shit is complicated. lol

What language are they in?

stonkyagraha

I would say we need new bot masters. But then I'd also say trusting new people for bot masters should not be taken lightly and we shouldn't trust new bot masters. God this shit is complicated. lol

Yerp

Lairian -Flairy Type-

What language are they in?

Something with 1s and 0s

7:59 PM

C++? That's a thing right?

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8:01 PM

Man, that's...that's like my first internship back in ...I don't wanna talk about it. Why C++?

Lairian -Flairy Type-

Man, that's...that's like my first internship back in ...I don't wanna talk about it. Why C++?

Cause that's all I know

8:02 PM

Go go 4 years of computer sci

8:02 PM

Hey @luma44 , what language are the bots programmed with

Which bots /gen

8:06 PM

Qv bot?

8:07 PM

Python

I do know Python, and Sephy knows it even harder.

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I had a 2 weeks Python class, does that count?/s

I've never touched python, but I taught myself vb and autoit. I might be able to figure it out.

FYI, RC unliked something. lol

Anyone with a Twitter account know what the last like was?

Rough_Willow

Anyone with a Twitter account know what the last like was?

His 69th was a pulte tweet the day of the meet up, dunno if he's had more since or what he unliked tho.

LastResortFriend

His 69th was a pulte tweet the day of the meet up, dunno if he's had more since or what he unliked tho.

I'm wondering if that changed.

Rough_Willow

I'm wondering if that changed.

I'm asking around, wouldn't surprise me tho since Bill is a loose cannon today.

Rough_Willow

I'm wondering if that changed.

It didn't

12:25 PM

But he unliked something else

Oh boy. Xmas Easter egg hunt. What was unliked that people will now rally around as a source of dd to validate their ideas.

12:32 PM

The tweets are just so important (edited)

The unlike was apparently someone just posting

I'm guessing legal made him.

but, IF he wanted to keep the 69 likes, he could have just liked anything else

https://www.thestreet.com/memestocks/gme/brokerage-houses-cant-access-one-fourth-of-all-gamestop-gme-shares-heres-why

11:29 AM

Image of a storefront from 2020 to imply they have old products

Lairian -Flairy Type-

Image of a storefront from 2020 to imply they have old products

~~Old products~~ freshest Christmas sweaters

10:56 AM

Got so many compliments on my Ramen Christmas Sweater (edited)

Sigh

4:15 PM

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I'm going to go cry now.

Edit: Deleting my knee jerk reaction sassiness haha (edited)

PP Show

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Man, he really does hate money

looks to me like he just confirmed he is a bad actor

Diznavis

looks to me like he just confirmed he is a bad actor

How so? I haven't seen him compliment AA or say it's a good purchase. Shame how most of his work around unifying basket communities is dismissed as grifting and PR. I don't think RC would keep giving someone like that all the twitter attention tbh. In fact it reads to me like he's buying in to get more clout for holding AA accountable, so I think I'll reserve judgement on if he's a bad actor until he visibly stops those efforts and we see them being buddy buddy. I think that's a fair take.

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I can definitely see why you'd say it's not complementing AA, but I can't read this in any way other than advocating a purchase, at least long-term. He at least owns that it's not a short term move. He has to know this is going to get bandwagoners going. Which isn't his fault, do your own DD and research. I'm less anti-him, and more just frustrated with having to deal with the people putting him on a pedestal.

Lairian -Flairy Type-

I can definitely see why you'd say it's not complementing AA, but I can't read this in any way other than advocating a purchase, at least long-term. He at least owns that it's not a short term move. He has to know this is going to get bandwagoners going. Which isn't his fault, do your own DD and research. I'm less anti-him, and more just frustrated with having to deal with the people putting him on a pedestal.

I could see it as advocating for one on the condition the company starts listening to it's shareholders, which really is a big problem they have right now. He really should label it an activist play is that's the intent, his messaging certainly gets muddy. The pedestal stuff is old, I think we all have that opinion to some extent. In my own case with Pulte I tire greatly with the lack of forethought regarding optics.

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Ok. So, this has absolutely zero to do with pulte, but mm options positioning does offer evidence that amc might rip tomorrow.

nearly 1900% daily increase in mm long puts
200% daily increase in mm short calls
these factors (among other positioning) means the mm hedging requirement starts becoming very strong buy pressure that’s gets stronger the higher the price goes.
there has also been bullish divergence on daily and weekly time frames (red/blue in 3rd pic). So if there was ever a set up pointing at a stock putting in a larger timeframe bottom….this points to it. Here’s the big HOWEVER though. The rip wouldn’t be a short squeeze. It’d be the effect of mm hedging requirements and as soon as those start getting sold you’d see the price fall hard

What I get out of it is an attempt to get retail to follow him in with the intent to hold long term (so they can't use that money against the hedgies)

TiberiusWoodwind

Ok. So, this has absolutely zero to do with pulte, but mm options positioning does offer evidence that amc might rip tomorrow.

nearly 1900% daily increase in mm long puts
200% daily increase in mm short calls
these factors (among other positioning) means the mm hedging requirement starts becoming very strong buy pressure that’s gets stronger the higher the price goes.
there has also been bullish divergence on daily and weekly time frames (red/blue in 3rd pic). So if there was ever a set up pointing at a stock putting in a larger timeframe bottom….this points to it. Here’s the big HOWEVER though. The rip wouldn’t be a short squeeze. It’d be the effect of mm hedging requirements and as soon as those start getting sold you’d see the price fall hard

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

LastResortFriend

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

Yes. I’m a bit annoyed that the analysis suggests he found a good bottom. If ever there was conditions for their price to recover a bit (and I’m not talking some rip to $40, I mean like $10ish) this is the spot. Because they can’t dilute again til next earnings and something like that would absolutely wreck this happening.

TiberiusWoodwind

Yes. I’m a bit annoyed that the analysis suggests he found a good bottom. If ever there was conditions for their price to recover a bit (and I’m not talking some rip to $40, I mean like $10ish) this is the spot. Because they can’t dilute again til next earnings and something like that would absolutely wreck this happening.

anything #trading-club worthy here in your opinion? nfa ofc (edited)

LastResortFriend

anything #trading-club worthy here in your opinion? nfa ofc (edited)

And here’s another tough bit. This was it today using the smaller timeframe moving averages. It rejected at the hourly. Just staring at this, I’d look and think “hey downward movement will likely continue.” And because the bottom side of the hedging heat map pic I sent is heavy red on bottom half, if price does start dropping then the selling pressure becomes stronger and it’d be falling fast, again, due to mm hedging requirements.

LastResortFriend

I could see it as advocating for one on the condition the company starts listening to it's shareholders, which really is a big problem they have right now. He really should label it an activist play is that's the intent, his messaging certainly gets muddy. The pedestal stuff is old, I think we all have that opinion to some extent. In my own case with Pulte I tire greatly with the lack of forethought regarding optics.

Sorry, got massive child agro, but did want to respond and say: Fair!

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Idk. If it were literally any other ticker this would seem a pretty cut/dry make a small yolo in a deep otm call. But it’s amc and I tend to believe a lot of that supportive options positioning will evaporate quickly once people make some profit so even if there is a run folks will see it deflate incredibly quickly.

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7:24 PM

Or the flip, it’ll start dropping tomorrow since hedging requirements are already strong on either side.

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@LastResortFriend here’s the fun bit when you can see mm option positioning…it means whatever narrative people cook up on why movement happens you know it wasn’t that. Whatever amount of shares pulte buys, that amount really isn’t what gets the price to wherever it goes. If it rips because the longer time frame structure points to a bottom being in we know hedging requirements launched it. If it drops because short term structure had a recent rejection we know hedging requirements did this too.

TiberiusWoodwind

@LastResortFriend here’s the fun bit when you can see mm option positioning…it means whatever narrative people cook up on why movement happens you know it wasn’t that. Whatever amount of shares pulte buys, that amount really isn’t what gets the price to wherever it goes. If it rips because the longer time frame structure points to a bottom being in we know hedging requirements launched it. If it drops because short term structure had a recent rejection we know hedging requirements did this too.

How are you able to see that data?

7:36 PM

Would like to learn if possible.

LastResortFriend

How are you able to see that data?

I pay $150ish a month for a service that compiles it

7:36 PM

The nice part is that because I use it for trading options, profit from that offsets the costs

TiberiusWoodwind

I pay $150ish a month for a service that compiles it

You allowed to say?

7:37 PM

That's not a bad price.

Deep dive stocks

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7:40 PM

Pultes “hold long” strategy kinda makes sense considering that big view I gave. Because yes, it might drop some more but those momentum trends suggest the dip is slowing down. The challenge is amc is up to its neck in debt, it will need to continue diluting, and hodlers have good reason to want to kick AA in the balls for shitty leadership. After all that dilution, if it manages to stay open there’s no chance of it ever seeing a moass type event.

7:44 PM

If I was gonna do something nuts on this, I’d buy relatively short dated otm calls and set a very very close stop loss. If it bangs, woo. If it shits its pants then walk away before it gets worse.

I hold off an saying any stock is incapable of having a MOASS event. Mainly because of all the hidden swap data. If any are weighted down at all with GME swaps, depending on the aggregate types of swaps between them, they may well lift off with GME. Nothing else will ever launch as hard as GME though so MOASS plays on them don't seem as good an idea. Good thoughts on the way to play out the AMC short term.

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LastResortFriend

I hold off an saying any stock is incapable of having a MOASS event. Mainly because of all the hidden swap data. If any are weighted down at all with GME swaps, depending on the aggregate types of swaps between them, they may well lift off with GME. Nothing else will ever launch as hard as GME though so MOASS plays on them don't seem as good an idea. Good thoughts on the way to play out the AMC short term.

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Dilution. Go back to pre-sneeze time and look at the size of the amc float then look at how many share offerings they’ve done. I haven’t done the math in like a year or so but I want to say it’s close to like 15x bigger now after accounting for all conversion and RS stuff. If there ever had been some inescapable trap….the door got left wide open to leave. Even as far back as a year ago in all likelihood a short could’ve been closing in profit and the APE conversion was the greatest short arbitrage play ever, literally risk free profitable shorting with an immediate close.

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@LastResortFriend just to point out another spot, here’s amc right before they mooned in June ‘21. Weekly (blue) and monthly (purple) moving average and velocity trends. That was peak hysteria and options gambling time. Not a surprise run out of nowhere, but a crossing of moving averages signaling traders to buy in. It peaked and then for months afterward the velocity trends continue to move down along with price which suggests the movement will continue. With no bullish momentum indication it really doesn’t matter if retail was buying or not because nothing is overcoming the force of traders passing off their bags/selling contracts, the company diluting, and regular shorters shorting. In Jan 2022 the price fell below purple (monthly ma) and in the next 6 months it was rejected twice from crossing above it. Since then it’s continued dropping like a stone (conveniently lining up with APE being created). And as of today, it would require AMC to run over 750% and maintain that for probably about 8 months to get a cross like that again signaling traders to rush in. That’s how far off they are from that mark. Now ask me, how close is GME?

TiberiusWoodwind

@LastResortFriend just to point out another spot, here’s amc right before they mooned in June ‘21. Weekly (blue) and monthly (purple) moving average and velocity trends. That was peak hysteria and options gambling time. Not a surprise run out of nowhere, but a crossing of moving averages signaling traders to buy in. It peaked and then for months afterward the velocity trends continue to move down along with price which suggests the movement will continue. With no bullish momentum indication it really doesn’t matter if retail was buying or not because nothing is overcoming the force of traders passing off their bags/selling contracts, the company diluting, and regular shorters shorting. In Jan 2022 the price fell below purple (monthly ma) and in the next 6 months it was rejected twice from crossing above it. Since then it’s continued dropping like a stone (conveniently lining up with APE being created). And as of today, it would require AMC to run over 750% and maintain that for probably about 8 months to get a cross like that again signaling traders to rush in. That’s how far off they are from that mark. Now ask me, how close is GME?

How close is GME?

TiberiusWoodwind

@LastResortFriend just to point out another spot, here’s amc right before they mooned in June ‘21. Weekly (blue) and monthly (purple) moving average and velocity trends. That was peak hysteria and options gambling time. Not a surprise run out of nowhere, but a crossing of moving averages signaling traders to buy in. It peaked and then for months afterward the velocity trends continue to move down along with price which suggests the movement will continue. With no bullish momentum indication it really doesn’t matter if retail was buying or not because nothing is overcoming the force of traders passing off their bags/selling contracts, the company diluting, and regular shorters shorting. In Jan 2022 the price fell below purple (monthly ma) and in the next 6 months it was rejected twice from crossing above it. Since then it’s continued dropping like a stone (conveniently lining up with APE being created). And as of today, it would require AMC to run over 750% and maintain that for probably about 8 months to get a cross like that again signaling traders to rush in. That’s how far off they are from that mark. Now ask me, how close is GME?

lol The numbers are hilariously bleak.

24%

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Sp positive EPS for the year + T80?

8:23 PM

Or just a 24% move up

If GME can get itself over $23 and hold it for about 2-3 months you’d see that type cross happen again

8:25 PM

And we aren’t even talking moass. We are just talking about significant trading activity driving volume and with that, ftds.

LastResortFriend

lol The numbers are hilariously bleak.

Yes. Because at current pace it would take until about January 2026 for that monthly moving average to get down to where amc is now. 2 years of the stock hanging out around $8 and that’s assuming more rounds of dilution don’t keep dragging it further

After some consideration, I think there’s potential this pulte thing might have a desirable outcome. The last sentence of Pulte’s tweet, what happens if AA does not respond to him?

Given how many people went all-in even after RC open lettered "you need to do this" and then pulled out when they didn't? I'm prepared to be disappointed by how many stay in even if AA doesn't give the appearance of listening.

Oh that doesn’t matter. AA will retire because he’s done sucking out wealth from the company. Good luck finding any execs who want to stick around or join a company who can’t turn a profit, won’t be allowed to dilute, and suddenly has a bunch of shareholders who think execs shouldn’t get a paycheck and should be stakeholders. So not only does this nonsense end sooner, but pulte might get left a bag holder as a reward for white knighting. I love that combo

Brb, feeding that into a text to speech program. I need it.

I love Bernie

2:30 PM

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